Monday, January 18, 2016

Where In The World, What In The World, Is Kent Hovind's "January Surprise"! -Guest Post By Robert Baty

I hate to admit that I'm back to following Kent Hovind again, but I find his videos irresistible, although I don't follow them as religiously as Bob Baty must.  Kent marked his 63 birthday by reviewing his life up to date in 21 year increments.  



The part that I really thought was interesting was how he glossed over his long struggle with the IRS in the time prior to his arrest for structuring.  So I contacted Bob who continues to run a facebook page on Hovind's legal issues to give my readers, who now number in the scores, and invited him to give us an update.- PJR


Not long ago, Kent Hovind was making numerous claims regarding something big that was going to happen in January 2016.

From his cryptic comments, it was to involve a blitz of media and political venues in promotion of Kent's efforts to keep up appearances for his alleged efforts to have his 2006 convictions overturned, structuring law repealed, and for him to receive millions in damages from the Government for his alleged false imprisonment.

Such efforts by Kent have been going on for years and are based in his continuing affections for things "sovereign citizen"; much like the folks who have recently been all over the news for having taken over, with arms, the Malheur Reserve in Oregon.

January 15, 2016 was reported to be Kent Hovind's 63rd birthday.

Kent has posted a video on his YouTube channel recounting his life, including false and/or misleading claims regarding his legal problems.  

Kent failed to provide an update on such things as his earlier reported "January Surprise", the recent return of his co-conspirator Paul John Hansen to Pensacola (to a half-way house to serve about 30 days before being beginning his Supervised Release next month), or the recent sentencing of their most famous jail-house convert to "sovcit nuttery", Shawn Thomas Stuller, to 20 years after trying to withdraw his plea deal and demand a jury trial.  Shawn Stuller was poised to get off rather lightly with his plea deal, but the influence of Kent Hovind and Paul John Hansen led him into the "sovcit nuttery" and it backfired when Shawn got 20 years.


Then there were 3!

(1)

Free Kent Hovind

(2)

Free Paul Hansen

(3)

Free Shawn Stuller
https://www.facebook.com/FREEShawnStuller/

Paul John Hansen was recently heard to claim he has been speaking with Kent's man Ernie Land on a daily basis.


Officially, Kent is not allowed contact with Paul because they are both convicted felons and under supervision of United States Government while they finish out their sentences.  

Unofficially, it appears Kent may be violating the rules by using agents to communicate with and coordinate certain activities with Paul who appears to be continuing to promote the notion that he is going to be holding common law court in Pensacola to redress his grievance and maybe Kent's as well (kinda like the Oregon occupiers are trying to do).

All of that effort might have garnered more attention were it not for the fact that the Oregon "stand-off" is taking the spotlight on behalf of the militia/sovereign citizen promoters like Kent and Paul and so many of their followers.

We'll have to wait and see how Kent's "January Surprise" might come off.

At about the 22:40 mark in today's birthday video, Kent claims he has several people working on his case and claiming it is possible to get it overturned.  

Video Link:



ypically, Kent really does have secrets despite his denials and for no good reason keeps his secrets as he tries to let us know he has some nutters like himself willing to monetize the effort regardless of its frivolity.

In that video Kent, as is typical, says there are some "things you can do".  That translates to "send money"!

Kent has yet to admit to and accept responsibility for his criminal conduct and for sending his wife to prison.

Kent appears to me to be a brilliant man and is very good at what he does and much of what he does is raise money for his fantasies and middle-class lifestyle without having to pay taxes; though he owes millions for his past failures to play along with the normal, legal course of things.

From what I observe, Kent keeps his real self rather well hidden from the outside world.  What I see are his public performances which appear to me to be very well crafted to maximize his monetization of his renewed efforts to raise money for what he wants to do.  It seems to be working out rather well for him for the time being and as he begins 3 years of Supervised Release.

In my opinion, if Kent really didn't care about being a convicted felon for the rest of life and never again being able to buy guns and use them which he was so fond of doing, he would let it go for he has no good reason for doing what he is supposedly doing to supposedly try to get his 2006 convictions overturned, structuring law repealed, and collect millions in damages for false imprisonment.

Kent, to me, seems a bitter man who has pledged the rest of his life to pay back the Government for daring to call him to account for a few of his crimes and to keep from paying what he owes.

Maybe he will.
Maybe he won't.

I propose that Kent repent, admit his criminal history, admit to sending his wife to prison, and start truthfully explaining what he has been up to regarding such things.

I have 23 specific propositions, and Kent has repeatedly asked his adversaries to be specific, that I have presented to Kent and his people for consideration.  Kent has, to date, refused to come out to discuss them with me or send out his champion to discuss them with me.

See following link for a list of the 23 propositions, with meme representations:

Kent, I am still waiting; for you and your "January Surprise"!

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I don't agree with Bob's analysis on some points.  Kent's fund raising efforts on-line are very soft sell and lack any sense of urgency.  He doesn't make it real easy to send him money.  Also Kent's presentations are heavily focused on religious matters.  He seems quite upbeat and not at all bitter.

I hate to say it, but I think that if Bob ever debated Kent, Kent would likely come out on top, although I may be selling Bob short there.  



5 comments:

  1. Peter,

    You should give me a little more credit, at least tentatively.

    Kent does not come out to talk to me about his legal problems or send out his champion(s) to do so because he and they know that I will vanquish them on the facts and the law and show Kent to be a liar and a tax cheat, among other things.

    Also, what "we" are privileged to see are his public performances. of course he tries not to let his bitterness show through, but there are indications that he is, in fact, quite bitter over having been called to account for just a few of his criminal activities.

    One big clue to his bitterness is his pledge to spend the rest of his life on the "offensive" to plague the Government with his sovcit antics; and, of course, he has a fan base to finance his antics.

    The Oregon thing may affect Kent's ability to get some public attention for his own attempt to make a public spectacle of his anti-government agenda.

    We will see.

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  2. P.S. to Peter

    You have had a cordial relationship, of sorts, with Kent and his people.

    Why don't you try to facilitate a meeting between Kent (or his champion) and me.

    I have proposed the following for discussion:

    1.

    Judge Margaret Casey Rodgers used the term "rape" to describe Kent Hovind and/or his actions and her comments were not reported in the official transcript.

    Kent Hovind: Affirm
    Robert Baty: Deny

    2.

    Structuring requires 2 or more transactions of $10,000 or less, on the same day, that total more than $10,000.

    Kent Hovind: Affirm
    Robert Baty: Deny

    3.

    Kent Hovind's 2006 indictment is seriously flawed and fraudulent.

    Kent Hovind: Affirm
    Robert Baty: Deny

    4.

    It is not a crime to structure.

    Kent Hovind: Affirm
    Robert Baty: Deny

    5.

    You can't do structuring on a bank account that was opened before 1999.

    Kent Hovind: Affirm
    Robert Baty: Deny

    6.

    A S.W.A.T. Team was used to affect the arrest of Kent Hovind in 2006.

    Kent Hovind: Affirm
    Robert Baty: Deny

    7.

    The IRS had Kent Hovind labeled as an "underground coal miner in the Virgin Islands".

    Kent Hovind: Affirm
    Robert Baty: Deny

    8.

    One or more former Indianapolis Baptist Temple buildings were bulldozed by the federal government after court ordered seizure.

    Kent Hovind: Affirm
    Robert Baty: Deny

    9.

    The head teller from Kent's bank testified that he/she did not think there was anything suspicious about the Hovind transactions.

    Kent Hovind: Affirm
    Robert Baty: Deny

    10.

    Kent Hovind had 6th Amendment rights to have Ernie Land represent/defend him before the Court in his 2006 trial.

    Kent Hovind: Affirm
    Robert Baty: Deny

    11.

    Jurors today have the legal right and option to acquit or convict based on their personal opinions of the law and defendant.

    Kent Hovind: Affirm
    Robert Baty: Deny

    12.

    Kent Hovind does not remember whether or not he mailed those lis pendens from New Hampshire.

    Kent Hovind: Affirm
    Robert Baty: Deny

    13.

    Jerold W. Barringer never had authority to file a petition invoking the U.S. Tax Court's jurisdiction in the case of Kent E. Hovind.

    Kent Hovind: Affirm
    Robert Baty: Deny

    14.

    John David "Roy" Atchison is the
    man who put Kent Hovind in prison.

    Kent Hovind: Affirm
    Robert Baty: Deny

    15.

    There are at least four ways to get Kent's 2006 case overturned, but he is going to leave that to others.

    Kent Hovind: Affirm
    Robert Baty: Deny

    16.

    After the original case in '06 we paid right away $4,500/$4,600 to get the transcripts; took 16 months!

    Kent Hovind: Affirm
    Robert Baty: Deny

    17.

    Jo's Tax Court case was decided in October of 2012, but I didn't hear about until Robert Baty told me about it months later.

    Kent Hovind: Affirm
    Robert Baty: Deny

    18.

    My case was about structuring...and I didn't break the law anyway.

    Kent Hovind: Affirm 01/02/2016
    Robert Baty: Deny 01/02/2016

    19.

    The "Tax Court" filed charges against me, had a trial, and convicted me all without notifying me; just notified me I was guilty!

    Kent Hovind: Affirm
    Robert Baty: Deny

    20.

    When the IRS MasterFile shows an adjusted gross income of $0.00 it means the person has no personal income tax liability and is not a tax protester.

    Kent Hovind: Affirm
    Robert Baty: Deny

    21.

    The federal agent that arrested Kent Hovind in 2006 was John David "Roy" Atchison.

    Kent Hovind: Affirm
    Robert Baty: Deny

    22.

    Kent Hovind and Anthony Jaworski are very good friends.

    Kent Hovind: Affirm
    Robert Baty: Deny

    23.

    God wants Kent Hovind to build a new AdventureLand.

    Kent Hovind: Affirm
    Robert Baty: Deny

    24.

    Judge Margaret Casey Rodgers gave me 3 years for obstruction because I prayed for the investigating agents.

    Kent Hovind: Affirm
    Robert Baty: Deny

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  3. Kent boasts of being willing to debate his creation v evolution adversaries anywhere at anytime; though he seems a bit disingenuous in promoting that idea since the reality seems to be he has no intention of personally engaging any adversary in legitimate negotiations for a proper debate on some disputed point.

    Kent in almost every broadcast and public performance speaks of his legal problems and boasts of having a team of people working to get his 2006 convictions overturned and millions in damages awarded to him.

    As far as I can tell, there is NOTHING pending, legally, regarding Kent's 2006 case; though Kent has suggested he or his team may be filing something as part of his "January Surprise".

    Kent expresses no interest in having his legal issues debated and does not even admit to who the individuals are who supposedly are working to get his case overturned and on his promised "January Surprise" intended to bring national attention to the issues in his case.

    Peter, if Kent thought he could be beat me in any debate regarding his substantive legal problems and related issues, I think he would have come out of hiding and engaged me or at least sent out one of his champions.

    Kent, I propose, is afraid of the truth regarding his legal problems and his oft-repeated false and/or misleading claims.

    I am, however, long-suffering and continue to wait for Kent, who has on a number of occasions made explicit and veiled attempts to insult and make fun of me, to come out to me and to discuss his legal problems and related issues....or to send his champion out to me.

    Kent and I can take up one or more of the current 24 proposed propositions noted above or some other matter of mutual interest.

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  4. And, of course, Kent still has issues with his wife which seem to be causing him severe emotional distress. Perhaps she is looking forward to the day Kent moves himself up to his proposed plaster of Paris dinosaur park in Alabama so that she can be left in the peace and quiet she became used to for the period Kent was in jail.

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  5. I think RL is on to something here,,,
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    Unofficially, it appears Kent may be violating the rules by using agents to communicate with and coordinate certain activities with Paul who appears to be continuing to promote the notion that he is going to be holding common law court in Pensacola to redress his grievance and maybe Kent's as well (kinda like the Oregon occupiers are trying to do).
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    But Oregon has taken away the thunder.


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