tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4421006301341157258.post5281977133981864089..comments2024-03-28T09:14:56.744-04:00Comments on Your Tax Matters Partner: Jonathan Schwartz Brings Filmmaker's Eye To The Kent Hovind TrialPeter Reillyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01473701483727808782noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4421006301341157258.post-9526559635028324832018-10-30T06:35:38.861-04:002018-10-30T06:35:38.861-04:00Thanks you very much for sharing these links. Will...Thanks you very much for sharing these links. Will definitely check this out.. <a href="https://yaldoeyecenter.com/" rel="nofollow">Website</a><br />SEO Experthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05405614014009487653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4421006301341157258.post-19882031897012815972015-03-05T12:12:00.923-05:002015-03-05T12:12:00.923-05:00Didn't have a name for the alleged "polic...Didn't have a name for the alleged "police officer", did you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4421006301341157258.post-57425407458379979682015-03-05T06:00:17.099-05:002015-03-05T06:00:17.099-05:00I think I've pinned down our flaw in logic in ...I think I've pinned down our flaw in logic in trying to remonstrate with Hovind supporters.<br />Henceforth, I propose the "Zamprogno Doctrine":<br /><br />"If, when arguing over a contentious matter, proponents put their name to posts while detractors routinely post anonymously, then proponents are entitled to conclude that their opponents are all 11 year old boys with learning difficulties and chips on their shoulders, barring conclusive evidence to the contrary."<br /><br />This makes <i>so</i> many of the above anonymous comments make perfect sense now. Wonder why I didn't realise it sooner.Nathan Zamprognohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18292757767183001630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4421006301341157258.post-34061629568726815892015-03-05T05:47:37.018-05:002015-03-05T05:47:37.018-05:00WTF? I'm in Australia, you idiot.WTF? I'm in Australia, you idiot.Nathan Zamprognohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18292757767183001630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4421006301341157258.post-14435600473907268852015-03-05T01:29:17.344-05:002015-03-05T01:29:17.344-05:00i suspect u r the one who wrote the false threat t...i suspect u r the one who wrote the false threat to the hotel Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4421006301341157258.post-54491592259676466902015-03-05T01:06:34.845-05:002015-03-05T01:06:34.845-05:00babbling vomit lolbabbling vomit lolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4421006301341157258.post-87618857159584668932015-03-04T21:05:46.083-05:002015-03-04T21:05:46.083-05:00"a former police officer came out..."
W..."a former police officer came out..."<br /><br />What is his name and what police department did he work for? Let's see if your claim can be supported. <br /><br />"Supreme Court overturns death penalty over sleeping, Twittering jurors..."<br /><br />Typical Hovindite. Select what supports you and ignore what doesn't. The 2011 case you refer to in Arkansas might have resulted in the case overturned, but more recent cases elsewhere haven't.<br /><br />Example #1: From 2013 in Louisiana: "Sleeping juror 'gossip' not grounds for new trial in Gretna murder case."<br />http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2013/05/sleeping_juror_gossip_not_grou.html<br /><br />Example #2: From 2012 in New York: "NY Top Court Upholds Murder Conviction Despite Alleged Sleeping Juror"<br />http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/ny_top_court_upholds_murder_conviction_despite_alleged_sleeping_juror/<br /><br />Example #3: Tanner v. United States decided by the US Supreme Court.<br /><br />The court refused to overturn a MAIL FRAUD conviction when a juror fell asleep and others consumed "copious amounts of alcohol, marijuana and cocaine during the course of the trial and deliberations."<br /><br />From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanner_v._United_States<br /><br />So based on court precedence, a sleeping jury or high jury can convict a man of mail fraud. But this is more relevant than you think.<br /><br />Guess where that case started and the man was originally convicted: FLORIDA. According to the ABA Journal: <br /><br />"In Tanner, following the trial, two jurors contacted one of the defense attorneys and reported that several of the jurors had consumed alcohol during the lunch breaks, causing them to sleep through the afternoon trial sessions. . . . The juror also stated that several of the jurors had fallen asleep during the trial."<br /><br />From: https://www.floridabar.org/DIVCOM/JN/JNJournal01.nsf/Author/B7F13596F612B1E885256BDC00569323<br /><br /><br />There is so much evidence of Hovind/Hansen's intent that this jury can easily find Hovind guilty as they sleep.<br /><br />Don't get me wrong. I hope they replace any sleeping jurors because when Hovind gets convicted, I don't want any whining from idiots who don't even understand what a proper noun is. (It is clear from your lack of grammatical capability that is there is only one Hovind defender on this blog. You make the same mistake over and over again. Maybe you're the Canadian who runs a few error-ridden websites that support federal prisoners.)<br /><br />At that time, Hovind will have had his day in court. The jury would have weighed the evidence and the result will be the same as in 2006: a guilty money-obsessed snake-oil salesman back behind bars. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4421006301341157258.post-86421462280128414292015-03-04T20:12:08.170-05:002015-03-04T20:12:08.170-05:00this is what i mean, you fools are so stupid it...this is what i mean, you fools are so stupid it's insulting....<br /><br />Supreme Court overturns death penalty over sleeping, Twittering jurors: http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2011/12/08/supreme-court-reverses-conviction-in-twittering-juror-case<br /><br />It's unconstitutional and the Judge is acting like a criminal... You guys are really a bunch of f'n idiots.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4421006301341157258.post-81504773346150097812015-03-04T20:08:51.128-05:002015-03-04T20:08:51.128-05:00lol what a jokelol what a jokeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4421006301341157258.post-5279521079205048452015-03-04T20:08:18.689-05:002015-03-04T20:08:18.689-05:00lol soooo many words. a former police officer came...lol soooo many words. a former police officer came out and admitted there is absolutely no evidence. this is a circus act and everyone know sit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4421006301341157258.post-62529938677086095952015-03-04T20:07:25.705-05:002015-03-04T20:07:25.705-05:00nah, you can try all you want lol. keep trying as ...nah, you can try all you want lol. keep trying as hard as you can.... chug along! chug along! keep pushing the rock up the hill lolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4421006301341157258.post-60094274991948491052015-03-04T17:04:41.121-05:002015-03-04T17:04:41.121-05:00I saw some comments elsewhere about Rudy Davis and...I saw some comments elsewhere about Rudy Davis and his cohort being upset that they aren't being allowed to "take notes," but newspaper reporters are.<br /><br />In addition to Davis' disturbing phone calls to this judge and prosecutors, he and his groups' behavior inside the court should alarm security. Possibly over fears about intimidation or harassing phone calls.<br /><br />In his March 4th video on Youtube, Davis discusses someone in his group trying to track down a witness inside the building. Davis said he was told the court's behavior could be "based on the fact that [a member of his group] was looking for one the witnesses we didn't get the name of and would look for him in the witness room". (Listen at 2:15 on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdxuYRUlkrk )<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4421006301341157258.post-21665670063232658132015-03-04T16:18:44.809-05:002015-03-04T16:18:44.809-05:00Actually, the federal government has more than one...Actually, the federal government has more than one hundred pieces of evidence from Hovind and Hansen. They have phone calls, emails and nonsensical legal ramblings. In fact, you can read some of it on 2Peter3 where Hovind blogs about his intent to "stop" the government's sale of property by filing a lis pendens.<br /><br />You probably also think "there is no evidence" of evolution too.<br /><br />"The former police officer" you are referring to is anonymous man who claims to be a former police officer and is one of less than a dozen Hovind supporters in the company of Rudy Davis. The alleged "officer" said that in Davis' recording today and on that same recording also shares Davis' confusion on why the judge said she decides law and the jury finds for fact. Really, this is such basic part of law I find it hard to believe a former law enforcement officer wouldn't know this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trier_of_fact<br /><br />Lastly, you Hovind supporters have done him a great disservice. After Hovind is found guilty next week by the weight of evidence, the judge will sentence him based on 1) if he is a first time offender, 2) shows remorse and 3) is likely to re-offend.<br /><br />He will probably get a stiffer sentence than the first time because he hasn't learned his lesson, has no remorse and shows he will keep filing nonsense.<br /><br />You, Rudy Davis and the dozen or so others are going to be the only ones surprised he was convicted again and the length of his sentence. Davis, by the way, is also a geocentrist too. He is literally surprised that people think the Earth goes around the sun.<br /><br />PS <br /><br />You do know other sleeping members of juries have convicted people of crimes, such as murder before? It could mean there is so much evidence they went overboard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4421006301341157258.post-65928797035673551382015-03-04T15:58:19.112-05:002015-03-04T15:58:19.112-05:00I don't find anything "hilarious" ab...I don't find anything "hilarious" about Rudy Davis, a unhinged and ignorant man, harassing federal officials with calls and possibly violating federal wiretapping laws by a recording the phone conversation of federal court clerk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4421006301341157258.post-78058960889686498772015-03-04T15:10:31.218-05:002015-03-04T15:10:31.218-05:00This article is full of satire and comedy. The fil...This article is full of satire and comedy. The filmmaker is not a very good one at that.<br /><br />The former police officer even admitted there is no evidence in this case.<br /><br />The Jury is falling asleep during the hearing lol<br /><br />It's a parade of horribles and it's a HUGE pornographic scene of injustice and ridiculousness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4421006301341157258.post-72924523679082787942015-03-04T15:08:29.189-05:002015-03-04T15:08:29.189-05:00lol what a joke lollol what a joke lolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4421006301341157258.post-665378582623627632015-03-04T15:07:57.646-05:002015-03-04T15:07:57.646-05:00lol you guys are hilarious. what a bunch of idiots...lol you guys are hilarious. what a bunch of idiots you all are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4421006301341157258.post-67192545883538269472015-03-04T15:06:55.723-05:002015-03-04T15:06:55.723-05:00lol you gotta be kidding lol you all love living i...lol you gotta be kidding lol you all love living in a fantasy worldAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4421006301341157258.post-30690620636780578162015-03-04T11:51:47.333-05:002015-03-04T11:51:47.333-05:00I saw that too. At least Rudy Davis finally learne...I saw that too. At least Rudy Davis finally learned it is "recuse" rather than "recluse".<br /><br />The guy has a lack of self-awareness. Davis has been calling the judges and prosecutors even berating a federal judge's clerk then posting the recorded conversation (which I doubt he had permission to record) on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJlbHIaVs0o (titled "Judge Margaret Casey Rodgers assistant responds to questions about court reporting"). He has been leaving messages on their phones with violent Bible verses.<br /><br />Now he complains about the security procedures in the court. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4421006301341157258.post-2363607635318939382015-03-04T10:53:40.836-05:002015-03-04T10:53:40.836-05:00Dear Jonathan,
This is a well-written, detailed a...Dear Jonathan,<br /><br />This is a well-written, detailed account. Please keep it up.<br /><br />I was wondering if anyone from the Hovind family (sons, wife or daughter) is watching the trial? Also was a definition of a lis pendens given to the jury? Was it made clear that Hovind no longer owned the property?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4421006301341157258.post-19404339463209100262015-03-04T10:08:16.403-05:002015-03-04T10:08:16.403-05:00Great writing Mr Schwartz. However, I don't t...Great writing Mr Schwartz. However, I don't think that your final remarks truly reflect Rudy's reported view of the judge as presented on his YouTube summary yesterday. He thinks himself a latter-day Zola constantly yelling "Recuse! Recuse! Recuse!".Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02756438676953185150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4421006301341157258.post-16459224965066817322015-03-04T09:16:32.506-05:002015-03-04T09:16:32.506-05:00We're hugely indebted to Jonathan Schwartz for...We're hugely indebted to Jonathan Schwartz for his ongoing commentary of this case. My earnest hope is that he will be able to attend the reminder of the trial, and continue to give us updates with the same level of detail that he is giving now.<br /><br />I'm reminded very much of the correspondence of H.L Mencken during the Scopes trial in Tennessee, 1925. What is it that the old curmudgeon said?<br /><i>“No democratic delusion is more fatuous than that which holds all men are capable of reason, and hence susceptible to conversion by evidence.”</i><br />Oh, how we need a latter-day Mencken in this benighted age!<br /><br />If there's any certainty it's that this case will get more interesting as it unfolds, for two reasons. The first is that as soon as Hansen or Hovind are placed under cross-examination, the awful <i>fremdscham</i>-inducing train-wreck of their worldview will be exposed for all the world to see. Whether this induces mirth, pity, or contempt among the jury remains to be seen. My bet is a mixture of all three.<br /><br />Note that Hovind has never once been cross-examined in any of his previous trials. As soon as either Hovind or Hansen begins to wave their finger at the court and lecture them that they aren’t American citizens and that the court has no jurisdiction because God, God, God, then they are sunk. We’ll watch the jury’s mirth give way to a steely resolve to Teach A Lesson, and how richly it will be deserved.<br /><br />The second reason relates relates to the hillbilly troop presently fuming in their unwashed and gap-toothed indignation outside the courthouse in support of Hovind. Actually: <i>troop?</i> Barely. Certainly less than a platoon. Indeed, if we adopt the same definition of troop as is used by the Girl Scouts of America, then the Hovindicators <i>in toto</i> amount to less than half a Girl Scout troop. And this was going to be the trial that Congress would be compelled to intervene in. Bwahaha! The delusion — it burns. How that must chafe.<br /><br />The important point is this: Rudy Davis, for all his “best behavior” at the moment, can’t be ignored as the man who declared only a week ago that Judge Rodgers was a Satanic Jezebel whose life should be forfeit, along with her President, whom Davis has personally offered to behead.<br /><br />This trial is going to go more and more poorly for Hovind as things go on. And Rudy Davis will acquire a new ulcer each day, until something will just snap in his excessively self-righteous fundament. Then we’ll see the real Rudy, just like we’ll see how quickly Federal Marshals can move when they need to. I’m telling you, this story ends badly.Nathan Zamprognohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18292757767183001630noreply@blogger.com