As noted by Rudy Davis, in one of his videos, MR has a strong grip on wikipeidia. The talk page of the Kent Hovind wikipedia article has the following
I see that a blog post from Peter Reilly has been added. I think it should be removed because it is not a WP:RS and hurts the quality of the wiki article.There you have it folks according to the infallible source, I'm a blogger with a pro-Hovind bias.
1) Peter Reilly is a Forbes blog "contributor," not to be confused with staff. That is, he is part of the Forbes blogging network, which is not the same as being published in the Forbes magazine. Thus, it is not a WP:RS.
2) The blog is an op-ed, sympathetic to Hovind. Reilly even manages to connect Wesley Snipes' case to Hovind. Reilly wants Hovind released and was "saddened" to hear that the government is "piling on" with new charges.
3) The blog's actual text is merely recycled block quotes from wikisource, facebook and court rulings that are openly available with a google search anyway. To put it another way, the facts aren't original and were reported elsewhere.
4) His "tax" blog also promotes creationism. Rarely would a RS or newspaper article about criminal charges have a section titled "Some Thoughts On Young Earth Creationism," where tells us about "taking my sister home from Christmas Midnight Mass."
The Forbes' contributor posts should be removed and avoided in the future. They add nothing of merit to the article, and only give a platform to a blogger with a pro-Hovind bias.
Bob's real passion in that area is Revenue Ruling 70-549. The ruling allows colleges affiliated with the Church of Christ to pay tax free housing allowances to all faculty and administration who belong to the Church of Christ, thanks to CC's priesthood of all believers theology. Hence my dubbing of Bob Baty as Bane of the Basketball Ministers, since the basketball coach would be included.
Bob had this tendency to bring up Rev Rul 70-549 at the drop of a hat, or even when the hat doesn't drop. I think he has gotten himself banned from some sites because of that.
One of Bob's first comment on forbes.com was February 15, 2012 on my article on Phil Driscoll who was claiming a housing allowance for two homes.
Bob was also interested in YEC, but I refused to take it up until the Jo Delia Hovind decision. Since then we have collaborated somewhat in following both parsonage and Hovind matters. His other obsession is something called presuppositonalism. I took a guest post from him on that on my non-tax blog, but I still have not figured it out.
A Little Rough Around The Edges
I have to tell you. Much as I like the guy, if you think he is a pain in the ass, I'm not going to argue with you. He has this tendency to engage in debates, where he makes up rules and then claims that he has won. Here is a sample from the comment section of one of my posts.
See, William, you are having trouble dealing with the simplest of matters and want to jump to and fro and evade dealing with the fundamental problem with young-earth creation-science as far as science and the law are concerned.
It’s my Creationism 101 Critical Thinking Exercise and you have yet to successfully proceed to the point of actually considering (C) of the minor premise of the argument.
Yours is a dodge that is common.
Are you afraid of demonstrating for us, in the context of the Exercise, what critical thinking skills you have when it comes to properly evaluating the Argument?In the listserv days, Bob would have been considered a flame warrior.
Your antics suggest as much.
Agent Of The New World Order?
If you really want to keep up to the minute with Kent Hovind developments. There are three places you should check out. One is Rudy Davis's youtube channel LoneStar1776
HAIR58V is Rudy's elevator speech in defense of Kent Hovind.
The growing consensus among Hovindicators seem to be that their flagship website may be #FreeKent. It is relatively new, but well put together.
The site Hovindicators like the least is a facebook page started by Bob Baty Kent Hovind and Jo Hovind v USA - IRS. Little as the Hovindicators may like the clear animus of the site against Doctor Hovind it does have the merit of being pretty thorough and does include much of their material.
This is where it gets a little weird. Both Rudy Davis and Ernie Land, an old friend of Kent who has taken charge of his defense, believe that there is a massive satanic conspiracy to establish a New World Order. In Kent's case the IRS is the tip of the spear. There is nothing new about this in his book The Paranoid Style in American Politics, Richard Hofstadter identifies the tendency
paranoid style—the existence of a vast, insidious, preternaturally effective international conspiratorial network designed to perpetrate acts of the most fiendish characterThe conspirators have virtually unlimited resources, since they control the Federal Reserve. Hence there are well paid disinformation agents spreading lies about Kent Hovind. So far it seems that Bob's facebook site is as bad as it gets.
OK guys. Two things/ Bob has not cut me in on the filthy lucre one red cent and again, much as I like the guy, I think if the Federal Reserve, the Illuminati, the Masons, the Jesuits and the IRS met in conclave to select their primary disinformation agent they could do better than Bob Baty. But that's just me.
How Is It Going?
The Hovindicators have been making quite a bit of noise and, by their lights, shining a lot of light, but they are becoming frustrated in their inability to make it closer to the mainstream. TigerDan925 discusses that issue in this video with an emphasis on lack of attention from Infowars
He quotes Ernie Land who mentions me indicating that I have let it slip that there is an embargo on this story in the mainstream media. Here is the email that I sent to Ernie and Rudy that led him to that conclusion.
One of the bloggers rather than saying Free Kent is calling for Hovinication, so I'm thinking of referring to Kent's supporters as Hovindicators. If you don't like the sound of it, I'll drop it.Maybe it was a silly request, but I thought it was pretty harmless, It seems to have caused some confusion and I'm sorry for that.
As far as I can tell the most prominent people that you have attracted are Pastors Wiley Drake and James David Manning. My impression is that Pastor Manning has at least not yet thrown himself in that wholeheartedly.
I understand that you have others who are waiting in the wings not ready to take a public stand.
Is there anybody that I am missing?
I sometimes get things from my editors that are embargoed press releases meaning that we can't write about them until a specified time, but we have time to do our posts and some advance research. If you manage to get a commitment from somebody prominent, I would really appreciate that kind of heads up.
I also I think I figured out the source of the rumor that my interview with Kent Hovind was going to run on CNN. Jonathan Schwartz of Interlock Media told Ernie that the studio that we were using is sometimes used by CNN.
All the US attorney has to do is drop the current charges, reverse the previous conviction and return all money and seized property and Kent will stop speaking out and not sue them. He will even ask God to forgive them, Hopefully the US attorney will think of that as a first offer and start negotiating.